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. >> that's the deal that obama says he would come down to, 37. the republicans say raise medicare eligibility. the left is completing freaking out over raising medicare eligibility and the right is freaking out about the tax rates. so they have to decide. the administration is clear that the tax rates have to go up. obama has given in on this before and so there's pressure on him. there's a lot of pressure on house democrats so i think if they can come to some sort of agreement on the rate and if republicans are willing to push the other stuff to next year, that's a deal. i mean -- >> but i think what argues against a big deal that includes any sort of cuts for instance up front on the entitlement side is republicans, if tax -- tax rates are going up either way either because you're going over a cliff or because the president will force you into a deal. they don't want to take responsibility for the economic fallout that comes. so if they agree to a big deal that includes spending cuts their fingerprints are all over it. it's likely they'll send
. >> that's the deal that obama says he would come down to, 37. the republicans say raise medicare eligibility. the left is completing freaking out over raising medicare eligibility and the right is freaking out about the tax rates. so they have to decide. the administration is clear that the tax rates have to go up. obama has given in on this before and so there's pressure on him. there's a lot of pressure on house democrats so i think if they can come to some sort of agreement on the...
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obama," or why people should be glad they voted for obama i guess after the fact, bernard, and also gretchen ham hamil. panel, welcome to you both. this is something. we've seen these right-to-work states becoming more and more popular, almost half the states in the night that are going right to work, but, gretchen, let me "street smart" with you on this -- start with you on this as a republican. >> well, you have to look at the past two years in michigan, some of the highest unemployment rates over the past two years reaching nearly 15% and currently 9.2%. so you see a state there that has an economy that is struggling and wanting to put into place measures that would create some economic growth. and that's what in the right-to-work measure would do. it would allow companies to come there and make them more attractive to coming there and doing business in michigan. megyn: bernard, what does this say to you about the strength of the union movement in this country? >> well, you know, i think the bill should be called a right to get something for nothing rather than a right-to-work bi
obama," or why people should be glad they voted for obama i guess after the fact, bernard, and also gretchen ham hamil. panel, welcome to you both. this is something. we've seen these right-to-work states becoming more and more popular, almost half the states in the night that are going right to work, but, gretchen, let me "street smart" with you on this -- start with you on this as a republican. >> well, you have to look at the past two years in michigan, some of the...
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he plays $4 interest that puts barack obama would he you won't grow bigger. they cannot allow you to fail. >> then you can make moir monor. and the rest of the bill when it doesn't stop too big to be failed? do they do other things? >> i think it is demanded. people need to realize dodd frank was passed and his 8, 900 pages. it is just a mandate. it says you need to go out and make rules on a variety of topics. >> this isn't the rule? >> it says go right 400. >> we only had one-third of the rules so there's about 400 rule making requirements of those one-third has beening finali ha finalized. one-third have been proposed. which means they are in various stijs they need to use. >> what's the harm in that? >> one of the difficulties is especially the complexity. no single person could do it. it requires two men man up power out howers. >> three laeb even year for what they have so far. there are 200 of the rules, 400 you could get that. >> no wonder the economy doesn't recover with this rolling over our heads. >> if they understood and applied they will not be
he plays $4 interest that puts barack obama would he you won't grow bigger. they cannot allow you to fail. >> then you can make moir monor. and the rest of the bill when it doesn't stop too big to be failed? do they do other things? >> i think it is demanded. people need to realize dodd frank was passed and his 8, 900 pages. it is just a mandate. it says you need to go out and make rules on a variety of topics. >> this isn't the rule? >> it says go right 400. >> we...
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we need a bill and obviously, i don't know where the g.o.p. is drawing their line on the sand but they know higher taxes are coming. some of the tax increases that go along with obama health care tax increases will dramatically hurt the economy so i help they take a stand and are not fooled into an idea that the public will give them more backing next time. that is far far-fetched. one side cannot put up legitimate things immediately and the other site putting up i.o.u. >>neil: if you think any deal is better than no deal, think again, to charles' point, he says markets are good at selling off on the shams when they do. what do you make of the possibility that we could look at something that is very like what we saw last year, the trigger being not spending cuts this time but tax hikes, will it make a difference? >> it will be a disaster. here is what will happen. they push off the spending cuts until next year, when they start talking about it next year they will say push it off until after the election. then we are talking about another year
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bill? bill: steve harrigan with the story out of the miami. we'll see where it goes this week. thank you, sir. martha: president obama and house speaker john boehner met face-to-face for the first time in more than three weeks hoping to hammer out some kind of budget deal for this fiscal cliff situation. this as more republican lawmakers took to the airwaves over the weekend saying they are indeed open to raising taxes but only in return for a plan that would get them a significant amount of cuts in entitlement spending. here is some of that from sunday. >> will i accept a tax increase as a part of a deal to actually solve our problems? yes. >> a for honesty but f for effort. you can't get it done, george. you can't take us off the road to bankruptcy unless you deal with structural reforms to entitlement spending. martha: south carolina republican senator lindsey graham, good to have you in studio. >> great to be here. martha: got out of the craziness of washington for couple days. >> my export expires. martha: you'll need one. talk negotiating tactics. does it make sense at th
bill? bill: steve harrigan with the story out of the miami. we'll see where it goes this week. thank you, sir. martha: president obama and house speaker john boehner met face-to-face for the first time in more than three weeks hoping to hammer out some kind of budget deal for this fiscal cliff situation. this as more republican lawmakers took to the airwaves over the weekend saying they are indeed open to raising taxes but only in return for a plan that would get them a significant amount of...
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[ music ] this is "the bill press show." >> bill: president obama business busy day today. daily briefing with the vice president at the whitehouse and then off to andrews air force base. i i don't know about a helicopter today in this we think. on to detroit landing in michigan at the metro wing county airport at 12:30 this afternoon touring the detroit diesel plant making remarks there at 2:00 o'clock this afternoon and then he will be back at the whitehouse this evening, arriving back on the south lawn of the white house at 4:30 this afternoon. press secretary jay carney will gaggling. no press briefing. he will gaggle with reporters aboard air force one, the president going out to talk about the jobs and the economy and the new job numbers on -- that we received on friday hilda solis will be in studio with us to talk about those job numbers about halfway through the next hour here on today's "full-court press." good to have you with us. so stick around for another hour. >> this is "the bill press show." [ music ] >> bill: good morning everybody. it is monday, december 1
[ music ] this is "the bill press show." >> bill: president obama business busy day today. daily briefing with the vice president at the whitehouse and then off to andrews air force base. i i don't know about a helicopter today in this we think. on to detroit landing in michigan at the metro wing county airport at 12:30 this afternoon touring the detroit diesel plant making remarks there at 2:00 o'clock this afternoon and then he will be back at the whitehouse this evening,...
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congress needs a bill soon. president obama is back on the road today, peddling his plan to avoid the so called fis kalg cliff. in washington, republicans and democrats remain far from a deal. sunday, small sign of hope. mr. obama and john boehner meet together. a source said, i would be a little enjournlged. not greatly, but a little. republicans may be ready to compromise on tax hikes for the rich. >> there's a growing group of folks looking at this and saying, we don't have a lot of cards in regards to the tax issue. >> reporter: some are open to more tax revenues. the two parties seem to be closer on entitlement, with one leading democrats saying he's open to means testing for medicare. >> i do believe there should be means testing. those of us with higher income and retirement should may more. >> reporter: if washington can't reach an agreement, every american will see a tax hike. >> there's going to be a lot of suffering among a lot of people who deserve otherwise. >> reporter: there's 22 days before the c
congress needs a bill soon. president obama is back on the road today, peddling his plan to avoid the so called fis kalg cliff. in washington, republicans and democrats remain far from a deal. sunday, small sign of hope. mr. obama and john boehner meet together. a source said, i would be a little enjournlged. not greatly, but a little. republicans may be ready to compromise on tax hikes for the rich. >> there's a growing group of folks looking at this and saying, we don't have a lot of...
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congress needs a bill soon. president obama is back on the road today, peddling his plan to avoid the so called fis kalg cliff. in washington, republicans and democrats remain far from a deal. sunday, small sign of hope. mr. obama and john boehner meet together. a source said, i would be a little enjournlged. not greatly, but a little. republicans may be ready to compromise on tax hikes for the rich. >> there's a growing group of folks looking at this and saying, we don't have a lot of cards in regards to the tax issue. >> reporter: some are open to more tax revenues. the two parties seem to be closer on entitlement, with one leading democrats saying he's open to means testing for medicare. >> i do believe there should be means testing. those of us with higher income and retirement should may more. >> reporter: if washington can't reach an agreement, every american will see a tax hike. >> there's going to be a lot of suffering among a lot of people who deserve otherwise. >> reporter: there's 22 days before the c
congress needs a bill soon. president obama is back on the road today, peddling his plan to avoid the so called fis kalg cliff. in washington, republicans and democrats remain far from a deal. sunday, small sign of hope. mr. obama and john boehner meet together. a source said, i would be a little enjournlged. not greatly, but a little. republicans may be ready to compromise on tax hikes for the rich. >> there's a growing group of folks looking at this and saying, we don't have a lot of...
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speak the whole point is it can fit the bill. we'll add $10 trillion of debt, doesn't obama taught no tax increases. we're talking cover the debt over that time. it is not enough to prevent a debt crisis down the line. tracy: we have seen it time and time again. thougthe ability to wealth if yu have access to important people. they don't have to pay taxes after all. >> people don't work as hard as ithey otherwise would have, dont take risks so don't get the growth have not raised taxes. i think that's what would happen if we went with president obama's plan. they come it will not grow as fast as it would have. speetracy: inevitably our taxesl go up because the wealthy do not pay as much as they thought. >> there's not enough revenue at the top to fit the bill. they still need to get back to where they get is coming from, spending on entitlement programs as social security and medicare. tracy: we spent $270 billionn3 from 21,022,014 on this credit, how come we don't talk about that? >> there's a bipartisan agreement that they like
speak the whole point is it can fit the bill. we'll add $10 trillion of debt, doesn't obama taught no tax increases. we're talking cover the debt over that time. it is not enough to prevent a debt crisis down the line. tracy: we have seen it time and time again. thougthe ability to wealth if yu have access to important people. they don't have to pay taxes after all. >> people don't work as hard as ithey otherwise would have, dont take risks so don't get the growth have not raised taxes. i...
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if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton and supported by bill clinton and barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> strong words. while clinton has dozens of options when she leaves the state department, "the new york times" notes she will have to choose her job carefully until she's ready to decide on the presidential race. quote, the more serious she is about 2016, the less she can do, no frank, seen it all memoir, no clients, commissions or controversial positions that could prove problematic. also get rid of those kay men island bank accounts. no car elevators either. clinton will likely sign on to work with her husband at the clinton foundation for a while and could possibly write a book about her time as secretary of state. >>> speaking of political contenders, there could be a bruising and very entertaining battle just around the corner in new jersey. newark mayor cory booker says he will decide in the next two weeks whether he plans or not plans to challenge governor chri
if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton and supported by bill clinton and barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> strong words. while clinton has dozens of options when she leaves the state department, "the new york times" notes she will have to choose her job carefully until she's ready to decide on the presidential race. quote, the more serious she is about 2016, the...
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a high water mark since bill clinton's reelection against bob dole in '96. they just don't know what to make of it. and the first thing they gravitate toward is this old line of having to change the tone or the message. what they're not getting is it's not just about changing the tone. it's not just about not talking ablt electrified fences and not being uncivil. it's also about fundamentally changing the policies that they embrace. being more willing to engage in conversations and discussions and actually get comprehensive reform done. get the dream act done. think about and include the latino community as part of the fabric, the family of the united states, which it clearly is and always has been, when they think about the latino community, you can tell that both in tone and in policy, they think of it as something foreign. and that's not the case at all. so they need to improve both the tone, but, more importantly, they need to change the policy behind the party. >> talking about policy, the president is poised to make a push for immigration reform after
a high water mark since bill clinton's reelection against bob dole in '96. they just don't know what to make of it. and the first thing they gravitate toward is this old line of having to change the tone or the message. what they're not getting is it's not just about changing the tone. it's not just about not talking ablt electrified fences and not being uncivil. it's also about fundamentally changing the policies that they embrace. being more willing to engage in conversations and discussions...
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joining us is bill daley, former chi of staff to president obama and commerce secretary during the clinton years. thanks very much. great to see you again, bill. well, the word that they -- >> nice to see you again. >> the word that they finally got together one-on-one this weekend, how important is that that they cleared the room of all their seconds? >> i think it's extremely important. we are down to the final three weeks, and as the congressman said, there's a lot to be done in the short period. these are complicated issues. i know a lot of times we want to simplify them, but the fact that the two principles, and it really is the president and the speaker, who will do this deal, spent some time alone having seen the two of them in the past when we went through the 2011 negotiations, they have respect for each other. they like each other. they will be able to do a deal together. i think the meeting yesterday was extremely important. is this a nonstarter for the white house? >> well, i'm not obviously speaking on behalf of the white house, so i think it is -- there are always the options
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the bill pushed through by the republican controlled house and senate in michigan, the daimler detroit michigan plant, the white house came out against the move sighing president obama has long opposed right-to-work laws and continues to oppose them now. by the way, a quick little aside on this disagreement among conservatives about what tactic boehner should take "the journal" versus kristol. this gives boehner more room, more power, more of an ability to get a deal done because there isn't conservative consensus on how to back seat cut boehner. secretary of state hillary clinton finishes up her final weeks as america's top diplomat and has to contemplate her next move. the clinton world is not sitting quietly, though. t "the new york times" kicked off what is likely to become a monthly exercise by somebody in the media. we may come up with a meter. probably throw in jeb in there, right? we should call it the hillary jebatron version 2016. probably jon stewart starting that up already. jodie cantor interviewed a number of clinton aides about future plans and strikingly a lot of them t
the bill pushed through by the republican controlled house and senate in michigan, the daimler detroit michigan plant, the white house came out against the move sighing president obama has long opposed right-to-work laws and continues to oppose them now. by the way, a quick little aside on this disagreement among conservatives about what tactic boehner should take "the journal" versus kristol. this gives boehner more room, more power, more of an ability to get a deal done because...
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. >> hopefully it doesn't go to the last day. >> reporter: president obama has asked congress to work through their holiday break if no deal is reached before then. >> both the white house and speaker baner's a office say the line's of communication remain open. the the president will speak to workers at an engine plant near detroit. >>> you may have a little bit more money for the holidays due to gas prices going down. the average price is 3.38. the cheapest in california is 3.42. got to go to stockton into the valley for that. the most expensive down in bakersfield at 3.73. san francisco for once, bakersfield. what's going on there. >> remember a few months ago at $5. >>> today a measure is up for discussion that could increase the supply of smoke free rental housing right here in san francisco. >> supervisor eric mar has proposed legislation that would require landlords to designate parking apartment units as smoking or r snot smoking. the san francisco apartment association say it may support an outright ban on smoking. >>> time now is 4:51, the sour taste of a crab shortage, the
. >> hopefully it doesn't go to the last day. >> reporter: president obama has asked congress to work through their holiday break if no deal is reached before then. >> both the white house and speaker baner's a office say the line's of communication remain open. the the president will speak to workers at an engine plant near detroit. >>> you may have a little bit more money for the holidays due to gas prices going down. the average price is 3.38. the cheapest in...
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bill clinton was the star. his job was to nominate obama for a second term in 2012. i really believe at the end of that speech if he had said, hey, while we're at it, can we nominate hillary for 2016 as the successor, by acclimation, that place would have done it. the change in mood toward the kk clintons was amazing. >> can hillary count on the same level of support, especially if the republicans, for example, were to run say marco rubio? >> absolutely. i mean, if hillary clinton when she ran against president obama actually won the latino vote 2 to 1. more importantly, a lot of lee tonos will remember how prosperous they were under a clinton administration versus a bush administration. not only would they definitely fall in line behind hillary clinton, but also let's not forget that latinas outvote their male counterparts. so they will be leading the charge in the polling booth in favor of hillary clinton no doubt. >> wow, i cannot wait. already licking my lips at the thought of it. thank you all. >>> next, the folks behind that hash tag fire boehner tell us who wo
bill clinton was the star. his job was to nominate obama for a second term in 2012. i really believe at the end of that speech if he had said, hey, while we're at it, can we nominate hillary for 2016 as the successor, by acclimation, that place would have done it. the change in mood toward the kk clintons was amazing. >> can hillary count on the same level of support, especially if the republicans, for example, were to run say marco rubio? >> absolutely. i mean, if hillary clinton...
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. >> i'm hopeful it doesn't go to the last day. >> president obama has asked congress to work through their holiday break if no deal is reached before then. now, one more thing to pile on here in addition to those automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. government jobless benefits for the long-time unemployed are set to expire. terrell? >> susan mcginnis starting us off in washington this morning. susan, good to see you. thank you so much. >>> in the midwest, heavy snow is beginning to taper off, but rolling in behind it is bitterly cold temperatures. parts of minnesota have gotten about 16 inches of snow. minneapolis and st. paul declared the first snow emergency, and blizzard and storm warnings have been issued from parts of south dakota to wisconsin. hundreds of accidents have been reported and over 150 flights canceled. >>> overseas the family of the doctor rescued in afghanistan say they're thankful for his safe return. dr. dilip joseph was captured. they sent in a special operations team on monday. one member of the special ops team was killed. president obama said the servicemem
. >> i'm hopeful it doesn't go to the last day. >> president obama has asked congress to work through their holiday break if no deal is reached before then. now, one more thing to pile on here in addition to those automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. government jobless benefits for the long-time unemployed are set to expire. terrell? >> susan mcginnis starting us off in washington this morning. susan, good to see you. thank you so much. >>> in the midwest, heavy...
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it's an important part of funding the bill. it's an important part of the bill's long-term deficit reduction. also it does do something i think is important. which is president obama often says he wants to bring taxes on the rich back to where they were in the clinton years. clinton rates as he says. when you had these taxes in, his proposal to actually increase taxes on the rich, quite a bit above where they were in the clinton years. >> the new taxes on wages and investment income, they're designed to raise, the number is, $318 billion over the next ten years or about half of all the new revenue that will be collected under the health care law. it's been pointed out the new taxes also come with a marriage penalty for those who qualify. >> i'm not hugely convinced. here's the way it works. the taxes kick in for individuals making more than $200,000 or families making more than $250,000. number one, anybody who's getting married is under those levels is seeing nothing here. that's the vast, overwhelming majority of americans. n
it's an important part of funding the bill. it's an important part of the bill's long-term deficit reduction. also it does do something i think is important. which is president obama often says he wants to bring taxes on the rich back to where they were in the clinton years. clinton rates as he says. when you had these taxes in, his proposal to actually increase taxes on the rich, quite a bit above where they were in the clinton years. >> the new taxes on wages and investment income,...
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from bill clinton, anthony, thank you so very much for your message on my 66th birthday. hearing from you made it a special day even more memorable. that's right. he sent the judge pages of those generic mass produced thank you notes politicians blast out to anyone who winds up on their mailing list. pathetic defense. >>> up next, the fiscal cliff. president obama's in campaign mode while republicans are considering, well, considering. can the president pull off a historic victory? maybe. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ [ male announcer ] with free package pickup from the u.s. postal service the holidays are easy. visit usps.com. pay, print, and have it picked up for free before december 20h for delivery in time for the holidays. you can even give us special instructions on where to find it. free package pickup. from the u.s. postal service. because it's nice to have an extra pair of hands around for the holidays. because it's nice to have an extra pair of hands around of washington about the future of medicare and social security. anncr: but you d
from bill clinton, anthony, thank you so very much for your message on my 66th birthday. hearing from you made it a special day even more memorable. that's right. he sent the judge pages of those generic mass produced thank you notes politicians blast out to anyone who winds up on their mailing list. pathetic defense. >>> up next, the fiscal cliff. president obama's in campaign mode while republicans are considering, well, considering. can the president pull off a historic victory?...
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in 1991, she was the one who persuaded bill clinton to run. he was telling her, no, i'm not sure this is my moment. and she said, this is your moment. take it. and of course he did. >> let me talk about the republican side. a couple of interesting things happened this week. the question of the tea party's influence in the party and certainly in the senate was an issue, as jim demint left. he is going to run heritage. you have paul ryan and marco rubio speaking at a jack kemp dinner. and i want to play a piece of sound from each of them. and it says something about how they see the future of the republican party. >> i've heard it suggested that the problem is that the american people have changed. that too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had, a chance. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. we need to speak to the aspirations. we mu
in 1991, she was the one who persuaded bill clinton to run. he was telling her, no, i'm not sure this is my moment. and she said, this is your moment. take it. and of course he did. >> let me talk about the republican side. a couple of interesting things happened this week. the question of the tea party's influence in the party and certainly in the senate was an issue, as jim demint left. he is going to run heritage. you have paul ryan and marco rubio speaking at a jack kemp dinner. and i...
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president obama voted for a poison pill that took down a promising senate bill at the time. now he's coming back saying he wants to get it done. >> dr. jay talking politics as smooth as a lay-up. thank you for visiting with us. >> my pleasure. take care. >>> up next, a big development of president obama's trip to michigan today. the president steps in to a nasty statewide battle between the governor and big labor. why now? why not wisconsin? "the cycle" rolls on. questions? anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. with his wife, danielle, almost every weekend. derrell hasn't been able to visit his mom back east in a long time. [ shirley ] things are sometimes a little tight around the house. i wasn't able to go to the wedding. [ emily jo ] since derrell couldn't get home, we decided to bring home to him and then just gave him a little bit of help finding his
president obama voted for a poison pill that took down a promising senate bill at the time. now he's coming back saying he wants to get it done. >> dr. jay talking politics as smooth as a lay-up. thank you for visiting with us. >> my pleasure. take care. >>> up next, a big development of president obama's trip to michigan today. the president steps in to a nasty statewide battle between the governor and big labor. why now? why not wisconsin? "the cycle" rolls on....
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a still relatively popular president barack obama. trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> joining me now, democratic strategist danielle gibbs. that's a pretty big admission. newt gingrich saying republicans would be incapable of beating hillary clinton in 2016. do you agree with your old boss, david? >> what he's saying is at this point given the way republicans are running campaigns, given what we just saw with governor romney campaigning and the couple of the senate campaigns, in terms of being able to be an effective political force, in terms of running a campaign against someone who's going to be that highly skilled, republicans have got a lot of work to do. so as a result it's not -- it's just not simply the tactical side. the voter lists and the data bases. it's the strategic side as well. remember, we made the strategic -- or the strategic decision was made by romney there was going to be a referendum. couldn't have been more wrong. >> let's l
a still relatively popular president barack obama. trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> joining me now, democratic strategist danielle gibbs. that's a pretty big admission. newt gingrich saying republicans would be incapable of beating hillary clinton in 2016. do you agree with your old boss, david? >> what he's saying is at this point given the way republicans are running campaigns, given what we...
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obama's hands. negotiating in public amongst themselves. prematurely giving up on the tax issue and undermining house speaker boehner in the process to which bill kristol responded, it would be great if they had an idea of what republicans can do. they don't. if they follow the editors over the cliff the only affect i'm afraid would be to turn a retreat in december in to a panicked rout in january. that's an interesting back and forth combined with what you said, as well. >> no, it is. i think you see in that back and forth a conservative outlet, at least the editorial page. some of the fissures within this party. just the direction of the party, there is, again, this big vacuum. there isn't a real leader of the republican party right now and seeing the different camps sort of fighting for primacy and fighting for a voice in terms of what the direction of this party will be not only on this issue but just in terms of larger issues about the direction of the country. >> and michael, as we pointed out, the president at the detroit diesel fact
obama's hands. negotiating in public amongst themselves. prematurely giving up on the tax issue and undermining house speaker boehner in the process to which bill kristol responded, it would be great if they had an idea of what republicans can do. they don't. if they follow the editors over the cliff the only affect i'm afraid would be to turn a retreat in december in to a panicked rout in january. that's an interesting back and forth combined with what you said, as well. >> no, it is. i...
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bill's trying, to explain what this means and explain how we are right and we have been right. and our philosophy is a governing philosophy for the future, but that's been stripped away by the anti-intellectualism of the past decade and the conservative cause. do you see christoph? >> this is from "the new york times" yesterday, profiting from a child's illiter dacy. "this is painful for a liberal to admit, but conservatives have a point when they suggest that america's safety net can sometimes entangle people in a soul-crushing dependency. our poverty programs do rescue many people, don't join the military escape route for poor, rural americans because it's easier to rely on food stamps and disability payments most wrenching of all are the parents who think it's best if a child stays illiterate because then they receive a disability check each month. there's no doubt that some families with seriously disabled children receive a lifeline from ssi but the bottom line is that we shouldn't try to fight poverty with a program that sometimes perpetuates it. >> there are some who act
bill's trying, to explain what this means and explain how we are right and we have been right. and our philosophy is a governing philosophy for the future, but that's been stripped away by the anti-intellectualism of the past decade and the conservative cause. do you see christoph? >> this is from "the new york times" yesterday, profiting from a child's illiter dacy. "this is painful for a liberal to admit, but conservatives have a point when they suggest that america's...
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is unraveling on obama's watch. here it is. election day was mass suicide. this is such a tiny fraction of the population. views politics and obama -- that way now. the only weird part is they've got cameras pointed at them that's on television. they've got a platform. so they -- you know, again they're such a radical minority. this notion that everyone, you know, thinks obama's re-election was a disaster. or was a suicide. >> trying to put on the black -- and cut off your junk. >> wow. that's a 1996 reference. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: but it is true. if the parallel universe continues. in the real world, we had a great new employment reporter on friday and monica crowley's world, it is just, you know, death and destruction. and dogs and cats living together. all right. sean hannity. >> boehner and company need to do are the following. one, they need to understand the game that obama's playing and they need to adjust accordingly to this. if obama's acting in a way that isn't helping the economy but is meant to des
is unraveling on obama's watch. here it is. election day was mass suicide. this is such a tiny fraction of the population. views politics and obama -- that way now. the only weird part is they've got cameras pointed at them that's on television. they've got a platform. so they -- you know, again they're such a radical minority. this notion that everyone, you know, thinks obama's re-election was a disaster. or was a suicide. >> trying to put on the black -- and cut off your junk. >>...
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obama, his plan is to sign the supporting bill. guest: he has to sign a sequestration order if he and the congress cannot agree on something before the state. caller: john boehner is sending forth a plan. guest: both the president and speaker boehner have ideas about avoiding the kind. there is some distance between them on taxes. both sides are looking for ways to compromise. caller: ok. am i understand this correctly? the pentagon made sequester 13%. is that correct? guest: the bill is about $54 billion. at is the number the pentagon has to take out of their 2013. that is about 9.4% of the budget. caller: ok, thanks. host: troy in pittsburgh. caller: they should have thought this out before the war got started. they did were bonds and raised -- they did war bonds and raise taxes after world war i. this war is still going on. they are still fighting overseas. guest: everything started with 9/11, and that was thrust upon us with a horrible attack. now we are at war and we have to fight these things. there wasn't a lot of thinking a
obama, his plan is to sign the supporting bill. guest: he has to sign a sequestration order if he and the congress cannot agree on something before the state. caller: john boehner is sending forth a plan. guest: both the president and speaker boehner have ideas about avoiding the kind. there is some distance between them on taxes. both sides are looking for ways to compromise. caller: ok. am i understand this correctly? the pentagon made sequester 13%. is that correct? guest: the bill is about...
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a still popular president, barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> with us now, republican strategist frank blunt and jody cantor. you wrote a piece in krur column and everybody has been talking about this since, it seems to me that she wants to rest, first of all. i mean, she's had four tough years of which her reputation's gone up. secondly, it seems to me when she faces this decision, it's going to be history, the first woman to run for president. and so the decision becomes inevitable. what's wrong with that idea? what could go wrong in this? >> as we know, everything can go wrong in politics. and the last time she was the presumed presidential front-runner in 2008, things did not go very well for her. one challenge she has now, when you're deciding to run for president, the rest of your life is in kind of limbo. her former aides, she wants to rest, she wants to write a book, she wants to work on behalf of women and girls. but the way that you do all of those things can ch
a still popular president, barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> with us now, republican strategist frank blunt and jody cantor. you wrote a piece in krur column and everybody has been talking about this since, it seems to me that she wants to rest, first of all. i mean, she's had four tough years of which her reputation's gone up. secondly, it seems to me when she faces this decision, it's...
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. >> if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton supported by bill clinton and presumably a still relatively popular barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl, and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> let's talk about this with cnn contributors l.z. granderson and will cain. agree or disagree on gingrich's assessment? >> gingrich sounds like a detroit lions fan. he's so pessimistic heading into the super bowl. i tend to agree. i think a the lot of people i've spoken to inside the administration as well as just kind of political wonks like us, we all think that hillary is going to run and she's going to be an incredible candidate to try to defeat. with that being said, 2016 is a long ways away. we need to get through 2014. we need to get through the fiscal cliff first. i think we're getting ahead of ourselves by saying she's unbeatable, but she's certainly formidable if she decides to run. >> point out that hillary clinton at every step says she's not running. we'll go ahead and talk about it anyway. will, do you agree w
. >> if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton supported by bill clinton and presumably a still relatively popular barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl, and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> let's talk about this with cnn contributors l.z. granderson and will cain. agree or disagree on gingrich's assessment? >> gingrich sounds like a detroit lions fan. he's so pessimistic heading into the super bowl....
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to middle, 37%. >> yes, that is the deal obama has said he'll come down to 37%. and republicans have said, let's raise medicare and, i think it is out there, floating to see how to the base will react and the left is completely freaking out over the raising of the medicare eligibility and i assume the right is freaking out about giving on the tax rates. they have to decide. the administration is clear tax rates have to go up. obama has given in on it before and says there is a lot of pressure on him and the house democrats and, i think if they can come to some sort of agreement on the rate and if republicans are willing to push the other steps to next year, that is a deal. >> i think what argues against a big deal, includes any sort of cuts, for instance, up front on the entitlement side is, republicans -- tax rates are going up either way, this is the thinking among republicans before because you are going over the cliff or because the president has the whip hand and will force you into a deal and they don't want to take responsibility for the economic fallout t
to middle, 37%. >> yes, that is the deal obama has said he'll come down to 37%. and republicans have said, let's raise medicare and, i think it is out there, floating to see how to the base will react and the left is completely freaking out over the raising of the medicare eligibility and i assume the right is freaking out about giving on the tax rates. they have to decide. the administration is clear tax rates have to go up. obama has given in on it before and says there is a lot of...
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popular president barack obama, trying to win that will truly be the super bowl and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> that's a strong statement, but not entirely inaccurate. she will be a formidable candidate if the economy is improving and they get a budget deal. look, three times in a row, very rare, george bush, ronald reagan, last time it happened. nothing is given, but given the demog r demography, her appeal would be formidable. >> the republican party in four years, hopefully more competitive. governors getting their sfripz. marco rubbo and paul ryan, reframing the republican party. is it possible there could be a new republican party in four years? i certainly hope so. we'll see. >> i have been waiting for this all along. newt gingrich, saying hillary clinton formidable. my god. >> i believe hell has frozen over and cats and dogs now getting together. >> i want hillary to run. i'm excited. >> still ahead, on "starting point" we'll talk about my documentary that aired last night. what it means to be black in america. my new doc looked at racial
popular president barack obama, trying to win that will truly be the super bowl and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> that's a strong statement, but not entirely inaccurate. she will be a formidable candidate if the economy is improving and they get a budget deal. look, three times in a row, very rare, george bush, ronald reagan, last time it happened. nothing is given, but given the demog r demography, her appeal would be formidable. >> the...
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>> that is a very good question, bill. and i don't have the answer. and it's not only that the senate passed a strong resolution. there were public hearings. and there was the opportunity for the public to give input into this decision making process. and huge numbers of people said, "wait a second, we do not need more media consolidation in america." senate came on record. so why the obama administration is doing something that the bush administration failed to do is beyond my understanding. and we're going to do everything we can to prevent it from happening. >> you may remember that back in 2007, your then senatorial colleague, barack obama wrote a strong letter to the republican chairman of the fcc who wanted to change the rules, just like genachowski is doing now. and he condemned the very tactics that his own fcc chairman is employing today. >> absolutely. and we hope the president will get involved in this issue. so i don't-- to be honest with you, i don't know the internal dynamics of why what is happening is happening. i know you got a couple
>> that is a very good question, bill. and i don't have the answer. and it's not only that the senate passed a strong resolution. there were public hearings. and there was the opportunity for the public to give input into this decision making process. and huge numbers of people said, "wait a second, we do not need more media consolidation in america." senate came on record. so why the obama administration is doing something that the bush administration failed to do is beyond my...